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Copying over Michael Garfield's comment on twitter in this thread https://x.com/michaelgarfield/status/1828463248657850645 so I can reply here 🙂

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Do you really think there's "little discussion about how to solve collective action problems"?

For what it's worth, I agree with most of your post and I might be biased in the opposite direction about what I perceive as your sampling error, because most conversations I've had in the last several years and EVERY conversation in the last few months has been about how to counterweight incentive landscapes across multiple scales in order to rise to this particular challenge.

But I also think it's a category error to call them "problems" because that suggests they can be solved with game theory. Prisoner's Dilemma and Tragedy of the Commons are both toy models that spit out equilibria that don't actually work as sustainable strategies in the real world.

I agree that the "what" is not enough on the first pass, and that from one angle

@dr_mcgilchrist

offers us a goal-state that is for many people in Late Capitalism hard to actually realize due to the systems in which they are embedded (see also the expropriation of meditation as a "tool" for workplace productivity). And of course there's a paradox inherent in using a left-hemisphere approach to achieve a right-hemisphere awareness.

But I think you may not be giving him enough credit. Consider for a moment that what he is offering already is the "how" you want, and that as fundamental uncertainty and complexity become more obvious to everyone the markets will adapt to favor holistic thinking (as well as the care for other beings that arises from a perspectival shift to non-separation) as *the means by which* to coordinate.

In other words, "what" and "how" are perspectives through which to see ontological properties, not ontological properties themselves. So the collective action problem is no problem at all:

• Either it cannot be solved because we are stuck in an instrumentalist way of seeing;

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• It dissolves into the higher logical order of natural and obvious cooperation when we dilate our apertures to recognize the common identity that exists prior to, and the common goal that supersedes, small-minded conflicts.

At any rate, I look forward to speaking with you (and hopefully Iain!) about this on my show:

https://bit.ly/humansontheloop

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